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	<title>Comments on: Historical Evidence for Jesus</title>
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		<title>By: Genevieve Redfield</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1054809</link>
		<dc:creator>Genevieve Redfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it, I love it, for yrs I have been trying to explain to some  why I feel and pretty sure, no one by name like Luke, Mathew, John etc etc, no one in this part of the world would have nor will to this era called by these names, they fo find  just one, these name are not common or even known, these are English names, and these people werre and most are still illitarate, how would they have known. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it, I love it, for yrs I have been trying to explain to some  why I feel and pretty sure, no one by name like Luke, Mathew, John etc etc, no one in this part of the world would have nor will to this era called by these names, they fo find  just one, these name are not common or even known, these are English names, and these people werre and most are still illitarate, how would they have known.</p>
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		<title>By: Steen Lindholt Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steen Lindholt Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 13:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry everybody, kind of repeatet myself. My first input was from way back, and I did&#039;nt read that before this new one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry everybody, kind of repeatet myself. My first input was from way back, and I did&#8217;nt read that before this new one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steen Lindholt Hansen</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-893079</link>
		<dc:creator>Steen Lindholt Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 12:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Thor! Well, most religion is pure guessing, isn&#039;t it? :-).
Where have you found the story about Odin, and the spear in his heart? I can&#039;t find it myself. Could it be from the era, where they needed to use some of the old beliefs to persuade people into christianity?
Jesus and Odin side by side, must be from that time of transfermation from Northern Mythologi and Christianity.
This transformation was not made over night. It took hundreds of years.
And even today, there is a lot of old religion mixed with christainity, in our life. For example christmas, called Jul here in Dk.
Tor is not the sun god, he is the strongest god armed with a hammer. He&#039;s job is to protect the humans, and to fight Fenris in Ragnarok.
I have never seen his hammer formed as a swastika. Could it be a picture made by some Nazi, trying to put together some symbols that fittet into there beliefs??
The swastika is seen on the on some Indian religius figure, who was made before some painter in Austria took it as he&#039;s symbol :-)
The things I now about the northern mythologi, is purely from Danish sites. The religion has been around for thousands of years, and is offcause different from time period to time period, and from area to area. 
Might I ask you, where you are from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thor! Well, most religion is pure guessing, isn&#8217;t it? <img src='http://noillusionspodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
Where have you found the story about Odin, and the spear in his heart? I can&#8217;t find it myself. Could it be from the era, where they needed to use some of the old beliefs to persuade people into christianity?<br />
Jesus and Odin side by side, must be from that time of transfermation from Northern Mythologi and Christianity.<br />
This transformation was not made over night. It took hundreds of years.<br />
And even today, there is a lot of old religion mixed with christainity, in our life. For example christmas, called Jul here in Dk.<br />
Tor is not the sun god, he is the strongest god armed with a hammer. He&#8217;s job is to protect the humans, and to fight Fenris in Ragnarok.<br />
I have never seen his hammer formed as a swastika. Could it be a picture made by some Nazi, trying to put together some symbols that fittet into there beliefs??<br />
The swastika is seen on the on some Indian religius figure, who was made before some painter in Austria took it as he&#8217;s symbol <img src='http://noillusionspodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The things I now about the northern mythologi, is purely from Danish sites. The religion has been around for thousands of years, and is offcause different from time period to time period, and from area to area.<br />
Might I ask you, where you are from?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Lozier</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-876365</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Lozier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  I would be very honored and appreciative if you would consider submitting to my blog (honestuncertainty.com) I am currently doing a 100 day analysis of the veracity of Jesus&#039; resurrection, taking all viewpoints.  http://honestuncertainty.com/2009/03/did-jesus-raise-from-the-dead-or-not-100-days-to-convince-me/  Also please check me out on Twitter: @HonestUncertain.  I&#039;d follow you but you don&#039;t mention your Twitter ID in this post (that I can find. ) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  I would be very honored and appreciative if you would consider submitting to my blog (honestuncertainty.com) I am currently doing a 100 day analysis of the veracity of Jesus&#8217; resurrection, taking all viewpoints.  <a href="http://honestuncertainty.com/2009/03/did-jesus-raise-from-the-dead-or-not-100-days-to-convince-me/" rel="nofollow">http://honestuncertainty.com/2009/03/did-jesus-raise-from-the-dead-or-not-100-days-to-convince-me/</a>  Also please check me out on Twitter: @HonestUncertain.  I&#8217;d follow you but you don&#8217;t mention your Twitter ID in this post (that I can find. ) <img src='http://noillusionspodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cataractmoon (cataractmoon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>cataractmoon (cataractmoon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 18:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting link on historicity of jesus http://tinyurl.com/cw5yq5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting link on historicity of jesus <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cw5yq5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cw5yq5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Thor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 18:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Steen Lindholt Hansen&quot;

I am sorry to say you claim many things founded on pure guessing. 

Let us look at the Norse Gods you mention.

Tor: Tor is a sun god. He rides his chariot over the sky bringing the sun from the east to the west. I recommend you read up on the symbolism about sun-chariots in many ancient cultures. Mjølner, his hammer, is shaped like a swastika. Again I recommend you read up on the real symbolism the swastika represents. At dawn when he comes home with his chariot
he slaughters his rams for feasting. Knowing that when the sun once more will rise, they will come back to life in order to pull his chariot. Tor was the god closest to humans. And when Ragnarok comes, he will die fighting Midgardsormen on behalf of the humans. Thus sacrificing himself for us.

The son, and the father.

Odin. The sun god. Father of Tor. He is the all seeing. His ravens watches the land for him. Like the symbol of Horus, Odin is represented as &quot;one eye&quot;. To gain knowledge of humans and their suffering, he hangs on the tree of life for several days. He is also while he hangs on his tree, penetrated by a spear into his heart.


It is possible to expand the symbolism very much. But I would like to mention that in old Norwegian churches from the &quot;dark ages&quot; historians have found symbols of Odin, Tor and Jesus inside them. This perhaps because the people of that time did not see them as entirely different. They represented more or less the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steen Lindholt Hansen&#8221;</p>
<p>I am sorry to say you claim many things founded on pure guessing. </p>
<p>Let us look at the Norse Gods you mention.</p>
<p>Tor: Tor is a sun god. He rides his chariot over the sky bringing the sun from the east to the west. I recommend you read up on the symbolism about sun-chariots in many ancient cultures. Mjølner, his hammer, is shaped like a swastika. Again I recommend you read up on the real symbolism the swastika represents. At dawn when he comes home with his chariot<br />
he slaughters his rams for feasting. Knowing that when the sun once more will rise, they will come back to life in order to pull his chariot. Tor was the god closest to humans. And when Ragnarok comes, he will die fighting Midgardsormen on behalf of the humans. Thus sacrificing himself for us.</p>
<p>The son, and the father.</p>
<p>Odin. The sun god. Father of Tor. He is the all seeing. His ravens watches the land for him. Like the symbol of Horus, Odin is represented as &#8220;one eye&#8221;. To gain knowledge of humans and their suffering, he hangs on the tree of life for several days. He is also while he hangs on his tree, penetrated by a spear into his heart.</p>
<p>It is possible to expand the symbolism very much. But I would like to mention that in old Norwegian churches from the &#8220;dark ages&#8221; historians have found symbols of Odin, Tor and Jesus inside them. This perhaps because the people of that time did not see them as entirely different. They represented more or less the same.</p>
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		<title>By: LunaJune</title>
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		<dc:creator>LunaJune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 02:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cam  fabulous article  and Charlie your comments made me nearly piss myself  
I was taught by nuns for the first 3 years of school, the old penguins in their outfits
I spend more time talking to my dad about mythology so when we got to Catholic studies and I still remember this in kindergarten they ask us to draw a picture of Jesus and I wouldn&#039;t do it because I said..they didnt&#039; have cameras back then so no one knows what he looks like and the picture on the wall was just someone idea of what he looked like so started me getting in trouble...but thankfully the nuns thought I was an angel and let me get away with things...so I drew the ark...it was a boat I could believe there was a big boat so drew one  LOL
I have enough bad things that have happend in my family via the catholic church to cringe when I hear people say the word god  and spent a great deal of my life fighting against anything bigger than us...the thought of something in the sky that made us...and as George Carlin said...why if he lives in the sky does he always seem to need money, and tons of it LOL
anyway I do believe we as humans need to stand up and realize that we are all connectied that the energy that is life in in every living thing and that when we die this body goes back to the earth with all the atoms that made it up, and the energy that is contained in it goes......you gotta leave to find that out....BUT I must say that life is much better lived with care, with love of fellow man, with love for this planet, for caring about what will happen after we are gone...and history does show us there were billions on years with no humans...and the planet can do it again...so what will we leave behind...to be dug up 200 milions years into the futrue...a gold cross, an iphone and a can of fosters...no what will that say about us????

cheers mates</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam  fabulous article  and Charlie your comments made me nearly piss myself<br />
I was taught by nuns for the first 3 years of school, the old penguins in their outfits<br />
I spend more time talking to my dad about mythology so when we got to Catholic studies and I still remember this in kindergarten they ask us to draw a picture of Jesus and I wouldn&#8217;t do it because I said..they didnt&#8217; have cameras back then so no one knows what he looks like and the picture on the wall was just someone idea of what he looked like so started me getting in trouble&#8230;but thankfully the nuns thought I was an angel and let me get away with things&#8230;so I drew the ark&#8230;it was a boat I could believe there was a big boat so drew one  LOL<br />
I have enough bad things that have happend in my family via the catholic church to cringe when I hear people say the word god  and spent a great deal of my life fighting against anything bigger than us&#8230;the thought of something in the sky that made us&#8230;and as George Carlin said&#8230;why if he lives in the sky does he always seem to need money, and tons of it LOL<br />
anyway I do believe we as humans need to stand up and realize that we are all connectied that the energy that is life in in every living thing and that when we die this body goes back to the earth with all the atoms that made it up, and the energy that is contained in it goes&#8230;&#8230;you gotta leave to find that out&#8230;.BUT I must say that life is much better lived with care, with love of fellow man, with love for this planet, for caring about what will happen after we are gone&#8230;and history does show us there were billions on years with no humans&#8230;and the planet can do it again&#8230;so what will we leave behind&#8230;to be dug up 200 milions years into the futrue&#8230;a gold cross, an iphone and a can of fosters&#8230;no what will that say about us????</p>
<p>cheers mates</p>
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		<title>By: Beyond The Fringe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s the Christian here?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beyond The Fringe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s the Christian here?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 04:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which so clearly departs from logical appreciation of what is after all, only a belief system, with little if any grounding in rational evidence or historical fact?  Sphere: Related [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steen Lindholt Hansen</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-732338</link>
		<dc:creator>Steen Lindholt Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, she&#039;s still hot. Speak better Danish than our French Prince Henri.
Odin is a son of Bor and Bestla. He has two brothers Vile and Ve, with whom he createt the first humans, Ask and Embla. He&#039;s married to Frigg, with whom he has 6 sons and one daughter. Balder and Thor is two of the sons. Balder is later killed by Loke.
Odin knows everything and see&#039;s everything.  Odin once drank of Mimers wellto become wise. To do that, he had to pay with one of he&#039;s eyes.
He can&#039;t walk on water. But then again, he has a horse called Sleipner, that can run equally as fast on the ground, on sea and in the sky.
Thor isn&#039;t know for curing diseases, he more known for bashing JÃ¦tter (trolls). He will die in &quot;Ragnarok&quot;, but not before he has killed &quot;MidgÃ¥rdsormen&quot;. Ragnarok is the final battle with the JÃ¦tter. And MidgÃ¥rdsormen is a big snake/ Dragon that lies in the sea, and goes all the way around the earth. By the way, MidgÃ¥rdsormen is a son of Loke. 
Thor is married to Sif, and has tree sons. Mode, Magne and Trud.
I can&#039;t see the connection between Odin and thor, and jesus. Non of them is born the 25th. Non of them will resurrect, 
The celebration of Midwinter, is for celebrating the days becomes longer, and the spring will come. The celebration of life.
King HÃ¥kon was christian born, and tried to make Norway christian, but failed. So offcause he tried to connect the 25th with midwinter. He tried to convince people into christianity. If you say to people &quot;what you have clebratet in 1000 years is wrong&quot; people starts wondering. But, if you connect it with there originally religion it is more likely they will like your idea. Turning the Vikings into christians, wasn&#039;t done over night. It took many many years. And for a long time, they combined the two religions. I have seen a christian cross, with the hammer of Thor in it. Some vikings where baptised more than once. because the munks gave them a new set of clothes everytime.
Here in Denmark, the old religion is becoming more and more popular. 
In Denmark the church is called &quot;peoples churc&quot;. We pay church tax&#039;es on 0.9%. Everybody pays that, unless you give notice about it. I don&#039;t pay church tax anymore, but still the salery to the priests and there pension is payed by the State. So I still pay somekind of hidden church tax. hopefully we will get a parting of church and State</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, she&#8217;s still hot. Speak better Danish than our French Prince Henri.<br />
Odin is a son of Bor and Bestla. He has two brothers Vile and Ve, with whom he createt the first humans, Ask and Embla. He&#8217;s married to Frigg, with whom he has 6 sons and one daughter. Balder and Thor is two of the sons. Balder is later killed by Loke.<br />
Odin knows everything and see&#8217;s everything.  Odin once drank of Mimers wellto become wise. To do that, he had to pay with one of he&#8217;s eyes.<br />
He can&#8217;t walk on water. But then again, he has a horse called Sleipner, that can run equally as fast on the ground, on sea and in the sky.<br />
Thor isn&#8217;t know for curing diseases, he more known for bashing JÃ¦tter (trolls). He will die in &#8220;Ragnarok&#8221;, but not before he has killed &#8220;MidgÃ¥rdsormen&#8221;. Ragnarok is the final battle with the JÃ¦tter. And MidgÃ¥rdsormen is a big snake/ Dragon that lies in the sea, and goes all the way around the earth. By the way, MidgÃ¥rdsormen is a son of Loke.<br />
Thor is married to Sif, and has tree sons. Mode, Magne and Trud.<br />
I can&#8217;t see the connection between Odin and thor, and jesus. Non of them is born the 25th. Non of them will resurrect,<br />
The celebration of Midwinter, is for celebrating the days becomes longer, and the spring will come. The celebration of life.<br />
King HÃ¥kon was christian born, and tried to make Norway christian, but failed. So offcause he tried to connect the 25th with midwinter. He tried to convince people into christianity. If you say to people &#8220;what you have clebratet in 1000 years is wrong&#8221; people starts wondering. But, if you connect it with there originally religion it is more likely they will like your idea. Turning the Vikings into christians, wasn&#8217;t done over night. It took many many years. And for a long time, they combined the two religions. I have seen a christian cross, with the hammer of Thor in it. Some vikings where baptised more than once. because the munks gave them a new set of clothes everytime.<br />
Here in Denmark, the old religion is becoming more and more popular.<br />
In Denmark the church is called &#8220;peoples churc&#8221;. We pay church tax&#8217;es on 0.9%. Everybody pays that, unless you give notice about it. I don&#8217;t pay church tax anymore, but still the salery to the priests and there pension is payed by the State. So I still pay somekind of hidden church tax. hopefully we will get a parting of church and State</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and by the way, I used to work with your current Princess. Or, I should say, she worked for me briefly in one of my earlier start-ups. She was much hotter back then. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and by the way, I used to work with your current Princess. Or, I should say, she worked for me briefly in one of my earlier start-ups. She was much hotter back then. <img src='http://noillusionspodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steen, what dates did you get for Odin and Thor? Wikipedia seems to partially confirm Zeitgeist:

Originally the name Giuli signified a 60 day tide beginning at the lunar midwinter of the late Scandinavian Norse and Germanic tribes. The arrival of Juletid thus came to refer to the midwinter celebrations. By the late Viking Age, the Yule celebrations came to specify a great solstitial Midwinter festival that amalgamated the traditions of various midwinter celebrations across Europe, like Mitwinternacht, Modrasnach, Midvinterblot, and the Teutonic solstice celebration, Feast of the Dead. A documented example of this is in 960, when King HÃ¥kon of Norway signed into law that Jul was to be celebrated on the night leading into December 25, to align it with the Christian celebrations. For some Norse sects, Yule logs were lit to honor Thor, the god of thunder. Feasting would continue until the log burned out, three or as many as twelve days.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steen, what dates did you get for Odin and Thor? Wikipedia seems to partially confirm Zeitgeist:</p>
<p>Originally the name Giuli signified a 60 day tide beginning at the lunar midwinter of the late Scandinavian Norse and Germanic tribes. The arrival of Juletid thus came to refer to the midwinter celebrations. By the late Viking Age, the Yule celebrations came to specify a great solstitial Midwinter festival that amalgamated the traditions of various midwinter celebrations across Europe, like Mitwinternacht, Modrasnach, Midvinterblot, and the Teutonic solstice celebration, Feast of the Dead. A documented example of this is in 960, when King HÃ¥kon of Norway signed into law that Jul was to be celebrated on the night leading into December 25, to align it with the Christian celebrations. For some Norse sects, Yule logs were lit to honor Thor, the god of thunder. Feasting would continue until the log burned out, three or as many as twelve days.<br />
(<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Steen Lindholt Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steen Lindholt Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cam!
I have just been listening to your show 265. You are trying to cure a christian. You give him som data on a guy, wich he then thinks is Jesus. But it is in fact, Horrace, som egyptian dude.
You the reffere to a film called &quot;Zeitgeist&quot;, in wich they proof that several gods and religious peole have the same data&#039;s. You know, born dec 25th, mother was a virgin and so on.
I have seen that movie, and thinks it&#039;s quite interresting. But I discovered a big mistake in it. Because, on that list is Odin and Tor from the northern mytholigy. They how ever, have nothing in common with horrace and jesus. They where not born the 25th, there mother was not a virgin, the don&#039;t heal sickness, the don&#039;t walk on water and they have not been executet and resurrect. 
What I&#039;m trying to say, is that  there is at least two major mistakes in that movie, and it makes me question it. What other errors have the made making the film? Now I can&#039;t show it to christians, in my effort to cure them. 
I am like you, an atheist. But I have read alot about the northern mythology, and finds it very intertaining, and interessting.
I&#039;m a Viking from the cold cold north, Denmark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cam!<br />
I have just been listening to your show 265. You are trying to cure a christian. You give him som data on a guy, wich he then thinks is Jesus. But it is in fact, Horrace, som egyptian dude.<br />
You the reffere to a film called &#8220;Zeitgeist&#8221;, in wich they proof that several gods and religious peole have the same data&#8217;s. You know, born dec 25th, mother was a virgin and so on.<br />
I have seen that movie, and thinks it&#8217;s quite interresting. But I discovered a big mistake in it. Because, on that list is Odin and Tor from the northern mytholigy. They how ever, have nothing in common with horrace and jesus. They where not born the 25th, there mother was not a virgin, the don&#8217;t heal sickness, the don&#8217;t walk on water and they have not been executet and resurrect.<br />
What I&#8217;m trying to say, is that  there is at least two major mistakes in that movie, and it makes me question it. What other errors have the made making the film? Now I can&#8217;t show it to christians, in my effort to cure them.<br />
I am like you, an atheist. But I have read alot about the northern mythology, and finds it very intertaining, and interessting.<br />
I&#8217;m a Viking from the cold cold north, Denmark.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-633460</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as we rail against the kind of thinking that would have a creator and a messiah as essential for being classed as a proper human being, I don&#039;t believe it will be our generation that will be the one to cast off this way of thinking.

I agree with Nick we have some physical/chemical leftover from our distant past to cause some people to be more susceptible to thinking this way (the fact that a religious &quot;experience&quot; can be manufactured easily in some people and not at all in others leads me to believe that). How we breed this trait out, I don&#039;t know.

Bring on the aliens maybe to fast track that process~!

Cameron, I know this is just a blog post and all, but some citations of the scholars who discuss the apostles stuff would be cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as we rail against the kind of thinking that would have a creator and a messiah as essential for being classed as a proper human being, I don&#8217;t believe it will be our generation that will be the one to cast off this way of thinking.</p>
<p>I agree with Nick we have some physical/chemical leftover from our distant past to cause some people to be more susceptible to thinking this way (the fact that a religious &#8220;experience&#8221; can be manufactured easily in some people and not at all in others leads me to believe that). How we breed this trait out, I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Bring on the aliens maybe to fast track that process~!</p>
<p>Cameron, I know this is just a blog post and all, but some citations of the scholars who discuss the apostles stuff would be cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Hodge</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-632573</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Hodge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Humans have not yet evolved to completely rid themselves of the virus of the mind: religion and need for a god. 

An alternative: that we are alone on a small planet in this incarnation of the universe is a hard, cold reality for many child-like minds to understand.

I for one find it difficult to reconcile our minute place in this universe. Regressing to wish for a parental god (or gods) is a sad reflection on how little our stone age evolved brains have moved on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humans have not yet evolved to completely rid themselves of the virus of the mind: religion and need for a god. </p>
<p>An alternative: that we are alone on a small planet in this incarnation of the universe is a hard, cold reality for many child-like minds to understand.</p>
<p>I for one find it difficult to reconcile our minute place in this universe. Regressing to wish for a parental god (or gods) is a sad reflection on how little our stone age evolved brains have moved on.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-632416</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important note for future messiahs:
1) write a memoirs before you&#039;re crucified
2) take lots of photos of yourself
3) make sure your disciples are literate (maybe get them blogging as well)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important note for future messiahs:<br />
1) write a memoirs before you&#8217;re crucified<br />
2) take lots of photos of yourself<br />
3) make sure your disciples are literate (maybe get them blogging as well)</p>
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		<title>By: Some Dude</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-632391</link>
		<dc:creator>Some Dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there is the lack of any notation in contemporary accounts of events in biblical history, such as the massacre of the innocents, and the zombies who walked around Jerusalem mentioned in Matthew 27:51-53. People seriously believe that zombies walked around Jerusalem and no one documented that anywhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there is the lack of any notation in contemporary accounts of events in biblical history, such as the massacre of the innocents, and the zombies who walked around Jerusalem mentioned in Matthew 27:51-53. People seriously believe that zombies walked around Jerusalem and no one documented that anywhere?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-632158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cam - you crack me up, man. In a good way... consistantly. You&#039;ve done your homework. I love it. You&#039;re constantly making me think. Great stuff.

I do believe that there is something intelligent going on - &#039;Intelligence Energy&#039; as Sailor Bob refers to IT. And despite your thoughts about Christianity I do have &#039;faith&#039; in something infiniately wiser than what my puny mind can fathom. Whatever assembled this body and makes it go, whatever causes synchronistic, &#039;personally&#039; meaningful moments of grace, I refer to it as God for lack of a better term. 

But I digress. I come here because I&#039;m open minded and you are so freakin&#039; funny. Keep on telling your truth!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cam &#8211; you crack me up, man. In a good way&#8230; consistantly. You&#8217;ve done your homework. I love it. You&#8217;re constantly making me think. Great stuff.</p>
<p>I do believe that there is something intelligent going on &#8211; &#8216;Intelligence Energy&#8217; as Sailor Bob refers to IT. And despite your thoughts about Christianity I do have &#8216;faith&#8217; in something infiniately wiser than what my puny mind can fathom. Whatever assembled this body and makes it go, whatever causes synchronistic, &#8216;personally&#8217; meaningful moments of grace, I refer to it as God for lack of a better term. </p>
<p>But I digress. I come here because I&#8217;m open minded and you are so freakin&#8217; funny. Keep on telling your truth!</p>
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		<title>By: Xan</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2008/08/27/historical-evidence-for-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-632073</link>
		<dc:creator>Xan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve always wondered is how is it in any way satisfactory for Christians that there is just a handful of supposed accounts of Jesus existence and acts outside of the Christian literature.

I mean, this was a person that routinely performed miracles, was a &quot;political activist&quot;, was crucified and then resurrected. And the most we hear from him outside if its own religion is &quot;And oh yeah, there was this guy Christ which I don&#039;t think he was human because he did some amazing shit&quot;.

The only explanation I can think of is that miracles were so common back then that nobody paid special attention to them. For some reason, though, since we have more or less detailed and accurate historical records nobody seems to bother in doing miracles anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve always wondered is how is it in any way satisfactory for Christians that there is just a handful of supposed accounts of Jesus existence and acts outside of the Christian literature.</p>
<p>I mean, this was a person that routinely performed miracles, was a &#8220;political activist&#8221;, was crucified and then resurrected. And the most we hear from him outside if its own religion is &#8220;And oh yeah, there was this guy Christ which I don&#8217;t think he was human because he did some amazing shit&#8221;.</p>
<p>The only explanation I can think of is that miracles were so common back then that nobody paid special attention to them. For some reason, though, since we have more or less detailed and accurate historical records nobody seems to bother in doing miracles anymore.</p>
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