Comments on: Gloria Jean’s Coffee reponds to allegations of abuse

By: Ibn Zaid

Ibn Zaid — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:24:45 +0000

Worse still is their support of the Zionist entity:

http://www.aicc.org.au/news_detail.cfm?region=ALL&id=201

By: paijo lopez

paijo lopez — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:32:46 +0000

dude, if you want to donate church then buy GJ coffee. if you’re against it then DON’T BUY IT!! you’re no better than those religious fanatics..pushing other person to accept your opinion

By: Cameron

Cameron — Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:58:04 +0000

John, good point, in re-reading my comments it isn’t relevant at all. Thanks for picking me up on it. I was referring to Brian Houston as a founding elder of Hillsong and certainly not suggesting that his sins are a reflection of the son. But yeah, thanks for making the point. You’re totally correct.

By: John August

John August — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:28:07 +0000

“You obviously knew of their relationship in Australia with Hillsong and that Hillsong were an extreme sect of Christian fundamentalists whose founder Brian Houstonâ€™s father, Frank Houston, had engaged in homosexual and paedophilic acts as a minister in New Zealand. This didnâ€™t bother you?”

Er … look, I agree most if not all of your other criticisms of Gloria Jean’s – and Hillsong . But, here you seem to be saying that anyone who has had the bad luck to have a paedophilic father are themselves tainted without any chance being their own person and doing good in their own right. We shouldn’t have any dealings with anyone who is in that unfortunate situation. It’s automatic, a given. And is there anything wrong with homosexuality ? Let me know.

Gloria Jean’s are worth criticising. But take care you don’t lose your objectivity over it. Don’t lose the moral high ground with loose talk.

OK, maybe this is pedantic – assuming you’re not as intolerant as a cursory reading of your commentary would make you appear – but it riled me up enough to comment.

John August.

By: Jehovah-jireh

Jehovah-jireh — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:19:52 +0000

Just do a google search to define Jireh…says it all

By: TPN :: GDay World » Blog Archive » G’Day World #331 - Ex-Gloria Jean’s Franchisees Speak Out

Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:15:01 +0000

[...] Gloria Jean’s Global Marketing Manager has commented on the blog in an attempt to provide their side of the [...]

By: Cameron

Cameron — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:38:48 +0000

Thanks Paul. I've blogged your comment to bring more attention to it (http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2008/06/25/former-gloria-jeans-franchisee-says-its-all-about-money/). Tell us more.

By: TPN :: GDay World » Blog Archive » Former Gloria Jeans Franchisee says “It’s All About Money”

Wed, 25 Jun 2008 00:37:13 +0000

[...] the comments section to one of my earlier posts exposing Gloria Jeans, a guy claiming to be an ex-franchisee [...]

By: Paul Barista (not my real name)

Paul Barista (not my real name) — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:03:28 +0000

As an ex-franchisee (yes, if you will pardon the pun I “saw the light” and got out) it disturbed me that we were given Targets for our “voluntary contributions”. In fact, we were required to audit the donations from our Mercy “box” on the counter and explain why were not at our required target every month. Everything this franchise stood for was, in one word, MONEY; and they would do anything in an effort to make more. It’s easy to feel Christian when you can screw your franchisees over 6 days a week and then go to Hillsong on Sunday and get absolution. This franchise is the single most evil facade masquerading as a Christian “feel good” company we ever encountered. Stay away.

By: Glenn V

Glenn V — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:51:11 +0000

Alexandra Deakin your words do not match what I have heard.

I have spoken to a franchise owner and know that the Mercy Ministries issue has been of great concern for a while now. You and the other management have just refused to listen to the people who buy into your franchises.

Your current position is very foolish, and not one I would expect from a professional truly concerned about Gloria Jeans PR. I suspect you are quite influenced by fundamentalist ideology and are hence refuse to listen to the people that run your business. Quite arrogant really.

This should be a clear warning to anyone considering taking out a Gloria Jeans franchise! Your word and livelihood means nothing to these extremists.

By: Andrew C

Andrew C — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:51:05 +0000

Nice one Cam – loved the crack about Bronze Age rituals. I normally avoid GJ coz their coffee plain sucks and drinking it (or Harbucks) in Melbourne is tantamount to grabbing a maccies croissant in Paris but yesterday I actually got kinda mad when I passed one of their musty looking chain stores in Malvern and was reminded of those cool ‘christianity is stupid – give up’ t-shirts that Negativland (http://www.negativland.com/nmol/negmisc.html) sell on their website. Am bummed they’re out of stock – I wonder if they’d serve me coffee if I was wearing one. Hopefully not.

By: Cameron

Cameron — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:00:09 +0000

Anon, whomever you might be, I applaud any business that is willing to donate to charity and helping young women under duress is certainly a good place to put your dollars. Mercy is a bit of a worry though. My big issue with all of this though, isn’t so much Mercy Ministries themselves, it’s the involvement of a large corporation like GJC backing Mercy but then saying they have no religious affiliations, when their Chairman is a senior member of the Hillsong Church. They are trying to spin the truth. If they came out and said “Hey, yeah, we believe in this bronze age mumbo jumbo and we’ll put our charity dollars anywhere we damn like” I’d have a lot more respect for them. I still wouldn’t buy their coffee, but I would at least think they were being up-front.

By: Cameron

Cameron — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:52:35 +0000

Lindsey, that second point is interesting, isn’t it? People who can lie to themselves and others are happier. I think that explains the appeal of most traditional religions. They give people license to lie to themselves. Atheists, on the other hand, try to face the truth.

By: Lindsey

Lindsey — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:29:15 +0000

Yeh, and if you had listened to the Radio Lab pod cast recently recommended by Cam, you would have also learnt two interesting items resulting from research into lying.

1. People are quite able to â€˜honestlyâ€™ hold two simultaneous contradictory thoughts (â€˜streams of consciousnessâ€™). One which they consciously (want to) believe to be true, and another they subconsciously know to be false.

2. People who habitually lie are happier people, possibly because they donâ€™t need to worry overly much about the accuracy of their statements.

By: Herne

Herne — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:01:10 +0000

Here’s one for you, Cam. From BBC News; Religion ‘linked to happy life’

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7302609.stm

By: anon

anon — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:23:44 +0000

Hi Cam,

I have to admit that in a role with a previous small family business I arranged sponsorship of Mercy Ministries without realising the affiliation. The sponsorship occurred because we saw the chance to benefit the women involved and did not look very deep into Mercy’s affiliations.

For us it was a chance to give back to the community for what appeared to be a very legitimate charity organisation.

Next time I see you I’m sure we will have a fun chat about it