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		<title>By: Herne</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-285298</link>
		<dc:creator>Herne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Squorkle: I don&#039;t operate with a &quot;throw away&quot; ID, I operate as myself. If people can&#039;t trust a person then the whole eBay system fails. I&#039;d be more apt to trust a seller that has over 1,000 transactions with a 90% rating than a seller that has a 100% rating with 20 transactions. I also read the negative and neutral comments on a seller before I decide if I&#039;m going to give them a thumbs up or thumbs down. Half the time the people who give a negative or neutral feedback don&#039;t even have a clue as to what they&#039;re doing. I&#039;m constantly reading comments like &quot;Costed too much&quot;--Well you bid on it! Or &quot;Took too long to ship from US to Australia&quot;--Well maybe you should&#039;ve looked at where it was shipping from before you bought it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Squorkle: I don&#8217;t operate with a &#8220;throw away&#8221; ID, I operate as myself. If people can&#8217;t trust a person then the whole eBay system fails. I&#8217;d be more apt to trust a seller that has over 1,000 transactions with a 90% rating than a seller that has a 100% rating with 20 transactions. I also read the negative and neutral comments on a seller before I decide if I&#8217;m going to give them a thumbs up or thumbs down. Half the time the people who give a negative or neutral feedback don&#8217;t even have a clue as to what they&#8217;re doing. I&#8217;m constantly reading comments like &#8220;Costed too much&#8221;&#8211;Well you bid on it! Or &#8220;Took too long to ship from US to Australia&#8221;&#8211;Well maybe you should&#8217;ve looked at where it was shipping from before you bought it?</p>
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		<title>By: James Williams</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-283684</link>
		<dc:creator>James Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ebay feedback system is a reflection on the trader, and doesn&#039;t really take into consideration the product.  The biggest problem with the system overall is that ebay counts neutral feedback as negative feedback. 

Ebay will ban - without right of reply or reproach - sellers who receive a certain percentage of negative OR neutral feedback. This is why this seller was so desperate to get the rating changed.

In light of this, my suggestion would be that you give poor feedback on the product but deliver it with a positive comment.  After all, this trader attempted to resolve your issue satisfactorily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ebay feedback system is a reflection on the trader, and doesn&#8217;t really take into consideration the product.  The biggest problem with the system overall is that ebay counts neutral feedback as negative feedback. </p>
<p>Ebay will ban &#8211; without right of reply or reproach &#8211; sellers who receive a certain percentage of negative OR neutral feedback. This is why this seller was so desperate to get the rating changed.</p>
<p>In light of this, my suggestion would be that you give poor feedback on the product but deliver it with a positive comment.  After all, this trader attempted to resolve your issue satisfactorily.</p>
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		<title>By: Squorkle</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-281118</link>
		<dc:creator>Squorkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon she was feeling guilty about flogging you a remote that she knew was dodgy, and remorsefully refunded to salve her conscience (and improve her score).

I&#039;ve had &gt;10 $100+ transactions with HongKong based ebayers, and they&#039;ve always been quick, and easy to communicate with.  They often have HSBC accounts in Australia, which makes the money trail pretty transparent.

As for being unfairly scored after giving negative feedback as a buyer, it&#039;s true that ebay favours the seller in this respect, but they must do so, especially if they want nervous newcomers to participate.  Who would send their stuff away unless they knew that the payment was guaranteed? The buyer takes the risk - it&#039;s just the nature of the thing.

@Herne: I think that the buyer has no reason to fear negative feedback if they are operating a throw away ebay ID. After all, you don&#039;t need to have a good reputation to buy, as you are taking the risk in sending the money. If the seller scores you badly, just open another username! In other words, have a seller account with a 100% feedback score (and rising), and a buyer account (also 100% until someone gives you a negative, whereupon you get a new ID).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon she was feeling guilty about flogging you a remote that she knew was dodgy, and remorsefully refunded to salve her conscience (and improve her score).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had &gt;10 $100+ transactions with HongKong based ebayers, and they&#8217;ve always been quick, and easy to communicate with.  They often have HSBC accounts in Australia, which makes the money trail pretty transparent.</p>
<p>As for being unfairly scored after giving negative feedback as a buyer, it&#8217;s true that ebay favours the seller in this respect, but they must do so, especially if they want nervous newcomers to participate.  Who would send their stuff away unless they knew that the payment was guaranteed? The buyer takes the risk &#8211; it&#8217;s just the nature of the thing.</p>
<p>@Herne: I think that the buyer has no reason to fear negative feedback if they are operating a throw away ebay ID. After all, you don&#8217;t need to have a good reputation to buy, as you are taking the risk in sending the money. If the seller scores you badly, just open another username! In other words, have a seller account with a 100% feedback score (and rising), and a buyer account (also 100% until someone gives you a negative, whereupon you get a new ID).</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Reilly</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-281010</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback folks. I submitted a comment on the feedback yesterday (apparently you can&#039;t actually *change* your previous comment) and advised that she gave me an unsolicited refund. 

Adam, when the product turned up it was obvious that it was a Chinese dodgy after market thing. No name brand. You&#039;re probably right, they are probably all dodgy. 

However, when I originally left the feedback, my rationale was that if she is selling dodgy product, people should know. I would want to know if I was a future customer. I never criticized her as a vendor, just the quality of the merch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback folks. I submitted a comment on the feedback yesterday (apparently you can&#8217;t actually *change* your previous comment) and advised that she gave me an unsolicited refund. </p>
<p>Adam, when the product turned up it was obvious that it was a Chinese dodgy after market thing. No name brand. You&#8217;re probably right, they are probably all dodgy. </p>
<p>However, when I originally left the feedback, my rationale was that if she is selling dodgy product, people should know. I would want to know if I was a future customer. I never criticized her as a vendor, just the quality of the merch.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bomb</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280986</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my prediction:  you will now receive negative feedback for not paying, or for keeping the product.  Have you checked for product reviews on the remote?  I recall a few people having issues - it could be poor production values for the product in general, not just the one you happened to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my prediction:  you will now receive negative feedback for not paying, or for keeping the product.  Have you checked for product reviews on the remote?  I recall a few people having issues &#8211; it could be poor production values for the product in general, not just the one you happened to get.</p>
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		<title>By: Herne</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280774</link>
		<dc:creator>Herne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don&#039;t think the eBay feedback system is a good reflection of what actually happens 100% of the time. Sometimes people will get a cruddy deal and still leave the seller a positive feedback because they fear the reprisal of getting negative feedback for negative feedback. The eBay system is mostly Karma for Karma... if you sell me a crappy item, I&#039;m going to give you crappy feedback. If you give me negative feedback in reprisal I will add a full detailed explanation as to why I gave my negative feedback. In a lot of cases, the sellers use the threat of negative feedback in order to force the buyer to keep their mouths shut. I wouldn&#039;t withdraw my neutral feedback, but I might add the comment that the seller refunded your money because you were unsatisfied. This still gives the seller good karma without sacrificing your initial comments.

I&#039;ve bought and sold on eBay and I have a 100% positive feedback rating. If someone has a problem with anything I sell I deal with the problem or refund their money. No problems so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t think the eBay feedback system is a good reflection of what actually happens 100% of the time. Sometimes people will get a cruddy deal and still leave the seller a positive feedback because they fear the reprisal of getting negative feedback for negative feedback. The eBay system is mostly Karma for Karma&#8230; if you sell me a crappy item, I&#8217;m going to give you crappy feedback. If you give me negative feedback in reprisal I will add a full detailed explanation as to why I gave my negative feedback. In a lot of cases, the sellers use the threat of negative feedback in order to force the buyer to keep their mouths shut. I wouldn&#8217;t withdraw my neutral feedback, but I might add the comment that the seller refunded your money because you were unsatisfied. This still gives the seller good karma without sacrificing your initial comments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve bought and sold on eBay and I have a 100% positive feedback rating. If someone has a problem with anything I sell I deal with the problem or refund their money. No problems so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin Wilson</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280469</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feedback is about the experience. Ultimately the experience was good, so why not leave good feedback?

I agree with Adam that the feedback system in general sucks. I think that it would be better if a) you had a limited time in which to leave it (makes the 8 week delivery thing a tad hard) and b) the two parties couldn&#039;t see each others feedback until both had left it, thus avoiding tit-for-tat comments, and hopefully leading to a more honest and realistic rating system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feedback is about the experience. Ultimately the experience was good, so why not leave good feedback?</p>
<p>I agree with Adam that the feedback system in general sucks. I think that it would be better if a) you had a limited time in which to leave it (makes the 8 week delivery thing a tad hard) and b) the two parties couldn&#8217;t see each others feedback until both had left it, thus avoiding tit-for-tat comments, and hopefully leading to a more honest and realistic rating system.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Stacy</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280442</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also want to state that I have extensive experience with eBay as both a seller and a buyer. I&#039;ve bought a lot of items from eBay.. the most expensive being a laptop. None of them were faulty. I&#039;ve only had good experiences.

I only ever wander &#039;off shore&#039; (outside Australia) for items if my flatmate is purchasing via me (thus he takes the loss not me).  Otherwise my rule of thumb that has never proved me wrong is to stick &quot;within Australia&quot; as place of where seller is located.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also want to state that I have extensive experience with eBay as both a seller and a buyer. I&#8217;ve bought a lot of items from eBay.. the most expensive being a laptop. None of them were faulty. I&#8217;ve only had good experiences.</p>
<p>I only ever wander &#8216;off shore&#8217; (outside Australia) for items if my flatmate is purchasing via me (thus he takes the loss not me).  Otherwise my rule of thumb that has never proved me wrong is to stick &#8220;within Australia&#8221; as place of where seller is located.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Minutillo</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280411</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Minutillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was originally against changing the review for a $5 rebate. That DID sound like selling your opinion to the highest (only?) bidder and there begins the slippery slope down to hell. Are you happy with the service you have been rendered? Keep that question in your mind when you write the review.

If it were me, I&#039;d be pretty happy. You weren&#039;t happy with the product you recieved and she has acknowledged that fact and actually DONE something about it. What do you think the XBOX teams response would have been if you said the remote you bought at K-Mart sucked?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was originally against changing the review for a $5 rebate. That DID sound like selling your opinion to the highest (only?) bidder and there begins the slippery slope down to hell. Are you happy with the service you have been rendered? Keep that question in your mind when you write the review.</p>
<p>If it were me, I&#8217;d be pretty happy. You weren&#8217;t happy with the product you recieved and she has acknowledged that fact and actually DONE something about it. What do you think the XBOX teams response would have been if you said the remote you bought at K-Mart sucked?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Purcell</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280409</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Purcell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an experience in which an item took 8 weeks for delivery after I had paid for express postage. Although it was coming from Hong Kong, the listing informed it should only take 5-7 days.

Naturally I left negative feedback, so the seller in return left negative feedback for me, even though I had paid instantly as it was a &#039;Buy It Now&#039;.

I complained to eBay saying it was unfair for myself to be penalised. The seller told me they would remove my bad feedback if I agreed to &#039;mutually withdraw&#039;. 

With no help from eBay I decided to &#039;mutually withdraw&#039;.  So unfortunately the seller leaves with a near perfect feedback score, which is not a true representation of their service.

With that being said, in Cameron&#039;s scenario I would be inclined to leave positive feedback and state in the comment what occured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an experience in which an item took 8 weeks for delivery after I had paid for express postage. Although it was coming from Hong Kong, the listing informed it should only take 5-7 days.</p>
<p>Naturally I left negative feedback, so the seller in return left negative feedback for me, even though I had paid instantly as it was a &#8216;Buy It Now&#8217;.</p>
<p>I complained to eBay saying it was unfair for myself to be penalised. The seller told me they would remove my bad feedback if I agreed to &#8216;mutually withdraw&#8217;. </p>
<p>With no help from eBay I decided to &#8216;mutually withdraw&#8217;.  So unfortunately the seller leaves with a near perfect feedback score, which is not a true representation of their service.</p>
<p>With that being said, in Cameron&#8217;s scenario I would be inclined to leave positive feedback and state in the comment what occured.</p>
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		<title>By: dekrazee1</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280367</link>
		<dc:creator>dekrazee1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never bought anything on Ebay. 
Why? I just don&#039;t shop much

Plus it&#039;s too much commitment. You&#039;ve gotta buy it, pay for it, receive it, and then decide you like it (or not...). Too topsy turvy for me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never bought anything on Ebay.<br />
Why? I just don&#8217;t shop much</p>
<p>Plus it&#8217;s too much commitment. You&#8217;ve gotta buy it, pay for it, receive it, and then decide you like it (or not&#8230;). Too topsy turvy for me</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa Stacy</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280365</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanessa Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my website is working. LOL.

Anyway, since she refunded you the whole amount of the item you won WITHOUT you asking her to do so .. IMO she deserves full credit and a positive rating now.  She is only selling the item, not making it herself.  If she has advertised that she MADE the item herself, then judge the item and customer service she provided.  I would give her positive feedback as now the whole deal has cost you $0 ! You&#039;ve come out on top: you have the item you paid for (and can keep it as she hasn&#039;t asked for it back) and it hasn&#039;t cost you a cent now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my website is working. LOL.</p>
<p>Anyway, since she refunded you the whole amount of the item you won WITHOUT you asking her to do so .. IMO she deserves full credit and a positive rating now.  She is only selling the item, not making it herself.  If she has advertised that she MADE the item herself, then judge the item and customer service she provided.  I would give her positive feedback as now the whole deal has cost you $0 ! You&#8217;ve come out on top: you have the item you paid for (and can keep it as she hasn&#8217;t asked for it back) and it hasn&#8217;t cost you a cent now.</p>
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		<title>By: ZagZ.com :: deep end of the alphabet &#187; eBay Ettiquette</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/11/12/a-question-about-ebay-etiquette/comment-page-1/#comment-280355</link>
		<dc:creator>ZagZ.com :: deep end of the alphabet &#187; eBay Ettiquette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 03:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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