Comments on: How To Get Scammed In Second Life http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/ Science, atheism, politics, futurism, and a hard dose of the truth. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:16:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: NathanaelB http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-252187 NathanaelB Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:37:18 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-252187 Ah. Ok. So THAT'S why the island I'm standing on right now which USED to be TPN HQ is completed empty. Shame about all that mess with virtual renting - crazy! Ah. Ok. So THAT’S why the island I’m standing on right now which USED to be TPN HQ is completed empty. Shame about all that mess with virtual renting – crazy!

]]> By: Fat Bastard http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-250330 Fat Bastard Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:43:16 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-250330 Hey Cam Pssssst listen carefully cause I'm only going to say this once. I have a great scrap metal deal going pretty cheap. It's currently being used as a bridge in a place called Sydney but I can let you in on the deal at mates rates. Let me know if you're interested. Hey Cam

Pssssst listen carefully cause I’m only going to say this once. I have a great scrap metal deal going pretty cheap. It’s currently being used as a bridge in a place called Sydney but I can let you in on the deal at mates rates.

Let me know if you’re interested.

]]> By: Phoenixa Sol http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249849 Phoenixa Sol Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:35:09 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249849 Hi, That's a real bummer about that mess and I hope you're able to recoup something that you'd spent. There are pockets of land all over secondlife available for sale. You may have to start with a small plot at first, and then snap up neighboring plots as they go on sale. (an example: where I bought my first buy, a 512 for $512L with a prim allowance of 117 prims... land went on sale next door for $15,000L for a 1024 sized lot. I got it, but I wished I'd have looked around a little more, because only a few plots away, a 1024 is for sale for only $7999L) Also, about prims, low prims, etc... you're coming in at a very good time. Once upon my noob days, a staircase might be 30 or more prims, but now with sculptie prims, what was once 30 prims.. in the hands of a talented creator is now 2 prims. I wish you good luck! Hi, That’s a real bummer about that mess and I hope you’re able to recoup something that you’d spent. There are pockets of land all over secondlife available for sale. You may have to start with a small plot at first, and then snap up neighboring plots as they go on sale. (an example: where I bought my first buy, a 512 for $512L with a prim allowance of 117 prims… land went on sale next door for $15,000L for a 1024 sized lot. I got it, but I wished I’d have looked around a little more, because only a few plots away, a 1024 is for sale for only $7999L)

Also, about prims, low prims, etc… you’re coming in at a very good time. Once upon my noob days, a staircase might be 30 or more prims, but now with sculptie prims, what was once 30 prims.. in the hands of a talented creator is now 2 prims.

I wish you good luck!

]]> By: jjprojects http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249812 jjprojects Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:53:01 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249812 Hmmm...so virtual worlds are actually part of the real world. Why am I not surprised. That definitely sucks, I'm sorry to hear about it. I'd be happy to help out in any way I can in reestablishing TPN HQ in SL. You had a really good thing going there - a real community feel happening. It was a thing to behold. Can't wait to visit the new, new, new TPN HQ in SL. I think it's well worth persisting Cam. jj Hmmm…so virtual worlds are actually part of the real world. Why am I not surprised.

That definitely sucks, I’m sorry to hear about it. I’d be happy to help out in any way I can in reestablishing TPN HQ in SL. You had a really good thing going there – a real community feel happening. It was a thing to behold.

Can’t wait to visit the new, new, new TPN HQ in SL. I think it’s well worth persisting Cam.

jj

]]> By: jjprojects http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249593 jjprojects Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:46:31 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249593 Hmmm...so virtual worlds are actually part of the real world. Why am I not surprised by that. That definitely sucks, I'm sorry to hear about it. I'd be happy to help out in any way I can in reestablishing TPN HQ in SL. You had a really good thing going there - a real community feel starting to happen. It was a thing to behold. Can't wait to visit the new, new, new TPN HQ in SL. I think it's worth persisting. jj Hmmm…so virtual worlds are actually part of the real world. Why am I not surprised by that.

That definitely sucks, I’m sorry to hear about it. I’d be happy to help out in any way I can in reestablishing TPN HQ in SL. You had a really good thing going there – a real community feel starting to happen. It was a thing to behold.

Can’t wait to visit the new, new, new TPN HQ in SL. I think it’s worth persisting.

jj

]]> By: Cait http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249592 Cait Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:43:27 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249592 Another issue with the was SL deals with land, is that any promotion you've done using your location co-ordinates, becomes worthless with every move. The more you move, the more fragmented it all becomes. Given the way prims are allocated and that prims can't be bought in isolation from land, it's a fundamental business risk of buying/renting in SL. Another issue with the was SL deals with land, is that any promotion you’ve done using your location co-ordinates, becomes worthless with every move. The more you move, the more fragmented it all becomes.

Given the way prims are allocated and that prims can’t be bought in isolation from land, it’s a fundamental business risk of buying/renting in SL.

]]> By: Ian Kath http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249529 Ian Kath Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:35:14 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249529 All the parts of real world live in sl it seems. We need to be as vigilant there as we are here especially when it comes to money and reputation. I got stung on ebay recently only for $10 but before I had a chance to notice that it was dodgy I had a refund coming through. I think some one started to get onto them and burn their reputation so ebay and paypal were able to sort it out. There is a new system of trade developing that is different to the old folding money deals and I'm glad to see in my case it worked out. I look forward to hearing your money has been returned Cam All the parts of real world live in sl it seems. We need to be as vigilant there as we are here especially when it comes to money and reputation. I got stung on ebay recently only for $10 but before I had a chance to notice that it was dodgy I had a refund coming through. I think some one started to get onto them and burn their reputation so ebay and paypal were able to sort it out. There is a new system of trade developing that is different to the old folding money deals and I’m glad to see in my case it worked out. I look forward to hearing your money has been returned Cam

]]> By: Ken Kennedy http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249478 Ken Kennedy Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:22:27 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249478 Ouch, Cameron...bummer. I know that I've heard on some of the SL podcasts about reputation systems that work as HUD add-ons for your display; I don't know if any of them have gotten any real traction, though. I googled and came up with a couple of quick links: http://wse.hopecapital.com.au/ http://www.3pointd.com/20070309/ratepoint-to-launch-second-life-ratings-service/ 3pointD usually has good info; Mark Wallace has been around for quite awhile. Ah, that RatePoint post has a link to another one: http://www.3pointd.com/20070104/user-created-trust-networks-in-second-life/ Maybe worth looking at. Your other lessons (longer account life is usually better, and owning is better than renting if you can afford it) are both definitely valid. And of course, the old adage...if it seems to good (ie, cheap) to be true, it probably is. Good luck! I'm in the process of setting up a new machine for the first time in 6 years (!) this week; once I get the new beast up and running, I'll have to come into SL and say hi. Ouch, Cameron…bummer. I know that I’ve heard on some of the SL podcasts about reputation systems that work as HUD add-ons for your display; I don’t know if any of them have gotten any real traction, though. I googled and came up with a couple of quick links:

http://wse.hopecapital.com.au/

http://www.3pointd.com/20070309/ratepoint-to-launch-second-life-ratings-service/

3pointD usually has good info; Mark Wallace has been around for quite awhile. Ah, that RatePoint post has a link to another one:

http://www.3pointd.com/20070104/user-created-trust-networks-in-second-life/

Maybe worth looking at. Your other lessons (longer account life is usually better, and owning is better than renting if you can afford it) are both definitely valid. And of course, the old adage…if it seems to good (ie, cheap) to be true, it probably is.

Good luck! I’m in the process of setting up a new machine for the first time in 6 years (!) this week; once I get the new beast up and running, I’ll have to come into SL and say hi.

]]> By: Michael Specht http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249477 Michael Specht Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:20:47 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249477 Proves that SL is still the wild west and that it needs a reputation system of some sorts! Maybe a background checking process would help. Proves that SL is still the wild west and that it needs a reputation system of some sorts!

Maybe a background checking process would help.

]]> By: Noodlez http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249476 Noodlez Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:12:06 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249476 And it was just starting to feel like a second home! Hopefully you can find a new crib soon. And it was just starting to feel like a second home!
Hopefully you can find a new crib soon.

]]> By: zBender http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249474 zBender Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:06:29 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249474 Ooooh....nasty...but I see this type of thing happening more and more online, and more and more in meatspace. The following is not a moral for you, but for others who would find themselves without capacity to work out the problem: if it's too good to be true, it's probably fake; try to imagine everything is a scam, and be pleasantly surprised now and then when it is not; the deal of the century comes around about once a month. Hope the TPN HQ comes back from the electronic ashes. Ooooh….nasty…but I see this type of thing happening more and more online, and more and more in meatspace.

The following is not a moral for you, but for others who would find themselves without capacity to work out the problem: if it’s too good to be true, it’s probably fake;

try to imagine everything is a scam, and be pleasantly surprised now and then when it is not;

the deal of the century comes around about once a month.

Hope the TPN HQ comes back from the electronic ashes.

]]> By: C.C. Chapman http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249473 C.C. Chapman Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:04:48 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249473 That totally sucks dude. Feel free to swing by the Dirty U-Turn if you need a place to hang out. http://www.dirtyuturn.com That totally sucks dude. Feel free to swing by the Dirty U-Turn if you need a place to hang out. http://www.dirtyuturn.com

]]> By: Nick Hodge http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249471 Nick Hodge Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:03:19 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249471 ooh, nastiness... just like the web world, it looks like you need sponsors on your new island to make it worthwhile... ooh, nastiness… just like the web world, it looks like you need sponsors on your new island to make it worthwhile…

]]> By: Paul Montgomery http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/comment-page-1/#comment-249470 Paul Montgomery Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:01:08 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/10/16/how-to-lose-your-shirt-in-second-life/#comment-249470 Bummer. Where will we all meet up now? Duncan's place, maybe? Bummer. Where will we all meet up now? Duncan’s place, maybe?

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