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	<title>Comments on: Cam&#8217;s World 31 July 2007</title>
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		<title>By: Cameron Reilly</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/07/31/cams-world-31-july-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-169999</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I should talk to your employer?</description>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/07/31/cams-world-31-july-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-169997</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm let&#039;s see what i can&#039;t access from work. 

Facebook, Last.fm, Pandora, Myspace (who cares), Screencastsonline forums, any site involving gaming of any sort, lots of sites that use flash of any sort, Youtube, Flickr, Meebo, or any IM except gtalk (see below).

 I can access gmail and thus use gtalk through there but need web browser open all day.  I also use Twitter the same way but being IE6 I think need seperate windows open so for general browsing during lunch or other times I open yet a 3rd window.  

I work for a NSW government department and it is very annoying.  Even a few months back Gtalk wouldn&#039;t work either.  I don&#039;t know if they blocke it or it was on Google&#039;s side. It sucks and I try and work around it but I still manage to access Techmeme but some of the linked stories are blocked depending where they are at and The Onion is always good for a laugh during the day. 

I can understanding blocking pornographic, offensive and harmful sites but other stuff like that listed above is just silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm let&#8217;s see what i can&#8217;t access from work. </p>
<p>Facebook, Last.fm, Pandora, Myspace (who cares), Screencastsonline forums, any site involving gaming of any sort, lots of sites that use flash of any sort, Youtube, Flickr, Meebo, or any IM except gtalk (see below).</p>
<p> I can access gmail and thus use gtalk through there but need web browser open all day.  I also use Twitter the same way but being IE6 I think need seperate windows open so for general browsing during lunch or other times I open yet a 3rd window.  </p>
<p>I work for a NSW government department and it is very annoying.  Even a few months back Gtalk wouldn&#8217;t work either.  I don&#8217;t know if they blocke it or it was on Google&#8217;s side. It sucks and I try and work around it but I still manage to access Techmeme but some of the linked stories are blocked depending where they are at and The Onion is always good for a laugh during the day. </p>
<p>I can understanding blocking pornographic, offensive and harmful sites but other stuff like that listed above is just silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron Reilly</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/07/31/cams-world-31-july-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-169790</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allen, yes, you should be able to book tickets to Tahiti and talk to Yolanda about her dog&#039;s virus, as long as you get your job done properly, on time and on budget. If being in the 10am staff meeting is part of your job description, and you miss it, then you aren&#039;t fulfilling your responsibilities and should get reprimanded appropriately. Is it Telstra&#039;s right to ban Facebook, IM (thanks for that piece of info Rich) and even, if they wish, personal telephone calls? Yes. Does it make them culturally moronic? Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allen, yes, you should be able to book tickets to Tahiti and talk to Yolanda about her dog&#8217;s virus, as long as you get your job done properly, on time and on budget. If being in the 10am staff meeting is part of your job description, and you miss it, then you aren&#8217;t fulfilling your responsibilities and should get reprimanded appropriately. Is it Telstra&#8217;s right to ban Facebook, IM (thanks for that piece of info Rich) and even, if they wish, personal telephone calls? Yes. Does it make them culturally moronic? Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://noillusionspodcast.com/2007/07/31/cams-world-31-july-2007/comment-page-1/#comment-169773</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 04:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know of at least one Melbourne government agency that still blocks instant messenger!&quot; 

um... try Telstra too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know of at least one Melbourne government agency that still blocks instant messenger!&#8221; </p>
<p>um&#8230; try Telstra too.</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Stern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allen Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t miss the point. I understand the point very well. Blocking Internet services today is just like blocking personal phone calls in the &#039;70s.

Your belief is that an employee should be able to do whatever they want as long as they get their work done.

While some employees use the work computer for good, many use it for evil or personal reasons. Should I be allowed to book tickets to Tahiti at 10am when I should be in a staff meeting? How much more work could I be doing if I wasn&#039;t chatting with Yolanda about her dog&#039;s virus.

Do I think blocking any internet service is stupid? Absolutely. It&#039;s a very powerful tool for getting a job done. But is it their right to do so? Yep. And not everyone needs the same level of access.

We should look at the issue from the company&#039;s perspective sometime instead of just the employee&#039;s. Let&#039;s chat sometime about it :)

I guess as a former auditor for large companies, I look at things with a strict financial bent. But I disagree... I understand your point (and agree with it) very well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t miss the point. I understand the point very well. Blocking Internet services today is just like blocking personal phone calls in the &#8217;70s.</p>
<p>Your belief is that an employee should be able to do whatever they want as long as they get their work done.</p>
<p>While some employees use the work computer for good, many use it for evil or personal reasons. Should I be allowed to book tickets to Tahiti at 10am when I should be in a staff meeting? How much more work could I be doing if I wasn&#8217;t chatting with Yolanda about her dog&#8217;s virus.</p>
<p>Do I think blocking any internet service is stupid? Absolutely. It&#8217;s a very powerful tool for getting a job done. But is it their right to do so? Yep. And not everyone needs the same level of access.</p>
<p>We should look at the issue from the company&#8217;s perspective sometime instead of just the employee&#8217;s. Let&#8217;s chat sometime about it <img src='http://noillusionspodcast.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I guess as a former auditor for large companies, I look at things with a strict financial bent. But I disagree&#8230; I understand your point (and agree with it) very well.</p>
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