Comments on: G’DAY WORLD 171 – On Marijuana, Living Without Advertising, and Plausible Deniability http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/ Science, atheism, politics, futurism, and a hard dose of the truth. Fri, 09 Dec 2011 17:16:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Marijuana Growth http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-209033 Marijuana Growth Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:17:49 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-209033 I think marijuana should be legalised. Its really not a big deal. My friend lives in california we he can grow. He uses a m grow box. He has a card and can do so legally and its even perscribed by a doctor. After his accident, he lost he appetitie. With marijuana he has it back, and feels less pain. Why shouldnt he get his natural medicine? I think marijuana should be legalised. Its really not a big deal. My friend lives in california we he can grow. He uses a m grow box. He has a card and can do so legally and its even perscribed by a doctor. After his accident, he lost he appetitie. With marijuana he has it back, and feels less pain. Why shouldnt he get his natural medicine?

]]> By: scientaestubique http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-28283 scientaestubique Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:40:10 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-28283 Two major reasons for it not to be legalised right now are: drug testing - if it cannot be easily tested on drivers, what will stop people from driving high? links to Schizophrenia http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s777336.htm Personally I have known someone who developed Schizophrenia within weeks of using dope for the first time, with no previous signs of any mental illness. His doctors were of the opinion that it was a factor in his illness. Before you dismiss this as a possibility, consider that mental illness is brain chemistry and dope messes with brain chemistry. While alcohol is a contributing factor for many issues in society, it does not pose an immediate danger to anyone's mental health. Two major reasons for it not to be legalised right now are:

drug testing – if it cannot be easily tested on drivers, what will stop people from driving high?

links to Schizophrenia
http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s777336.htm

Personally I have known someone who developed Schizophrenia within weeks of using dope for the first time, with no previous signs of any mental illness. His doctors were of the opinion that it was a factor in his illness. Before you dismiss this as a possibility, consider that mental illness is brain chemistry and dope messes with brain chemistry.

While alcohol is a contributing factor for many issues in society, it does not pose an immediate danger to anyone’s mental health.

]]> By: John McGuinness http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-18353 John McGuinness Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:10:36 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-18353 when talking about the case for the legalization of marijuana, people are always talking about the historical reasons why it was made illegal in the first place. While I repect your personal view on the subject Camron I believe that there are modern day reasons why it should not be legalized These days, we live in a society where there is a heap of trumpet blowing about peoples rights, but there is very little talk about the flip side of the coin, their responsibilities. For example, in our society, people have the right to unemployment benefits, but we have the responsibility to look for work. You and I cam as adults have the right to do nearly anything we please, but we are constrained by our responsibilities to our jobs, our family and our children in particular. Finally we all have the right to live in a free society but we have the responsibility to act within that societies laws. Common sense to you, me and a great number of your listeners Cam but not to everyone. I feel that today people do not teach their kids that as well as rights we have responsibilities and this leads to people people being encourged to not take responsibility for their actions, therefore they dont. 'it wasnt my fault I raped that woman your honour because I was abused as a child by my father'. How many times have we heard such things reported in the media and thought 'what a crock of shit'. People not taking respnsibilty for their own actions in drinking has lead to many incidences of assults, violence and vehicular manslaughter. 'Im sorry your honour but I was drunk' Marijuana today is not the same as it was in the 70's either. The THC level of the crop is a lot higher these days, meaning you get higher really quickly and while as you point out it doesnt make you violent, consistent use changes your personality to the point where you dont give a fuck about anything or anyone except yourself, even when your not high. I know this from experience. Im 100% for the use of marijuana (or heroin for that matter) for strictly medical purposes, the benefits of both are well documented but until people can learn to act responsibly and use the drugs we already have responsibly and not turn up for work boozed or stoned (a stoned man driving a forklift is a truely terrifying thing), then I think shings should stay as they are. Cheers John when talking about the case for the legalization of marijuana, people are always talking about the historical reasons why it was made illegal in the first place.

While I repect your personal view on the subject Camron I believe that there are modern day reasons why it should not be legalized

These days, we live in a society where there is a heap of trumpet blowing about peoples rights, but there is very little talk about the flip side of the coin, their responsibilities.

For example, in our society, people have the right to unemployment benefits, but we have the responsibility to look for work. You and I cam as adults have the right to do nearly anything we please, but we are constrained by our responsibilities to our jobs, our family and our children in particular. Finally we all have the right to live in a free society but we have the responsibility to act within that societies laws.

Common sense to you, me and a great number of your listeners Cam but not to everyone.

I feel that today people do not teach their kids that as well as rights we have responsibilities and this leads to people people being encourged to not take responsibility for their actions, therefore they dont. ‘it wasnt my fault I raped that woman your honour because I was abused as a child by my father’. How many times have we heard such things reported in the media and thought ‘what a crock of shit’.

People not taking respnsibilty for their own actions in drinking has lead to many incidences of assults, violence and vehicular manslaughter. ‘Im sorry your honour but I was drunk’

Marijuana today is not the same as it was in the 70′s either. The THC level of the crop is a lot higher these days, meaning you get higher really quickly and while as you point out it doesnt make you violent, consistent use changes your personality to the point where you dont give a fuck about anything or anyone except yourself, even when your not high. I know this from experience.

Im 100% for the use of marijuana (or heroin for that matter) for strictly medical purposes, the benefits of both are well documented but until people can learn to act responsibly and use the drugs we already have responsibly and not turn up for work boozed or stoned (a stoned man driving a forklift is a truely terrifying thing), then I think shings should stay as they are.

Cheers

John

]]> By: Phillip Molly Malone http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17734 Phillip Molly Malone Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:26:21 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17734 Hey Cam, I didn't know that the English followed Elvis. Do you have evidence of this? Molly (Don't understand? Listen to the show around 53min mark) Hey Cam,
I didn’t know that the English followed Elvis. Do you have evidence of this?
Molly
(Don’t understand? Listen to the show around 53min mark)

]]> By: Michael Specht http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17719 Michael Specht Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:42:31 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17719 Ahh there is it, me bad. Ahh there is it, me bad.

]]> By: Cameron Reilly http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17718 Cameron Reilly Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:29:53 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17718 'tis so. I can see it! ’tis so. I can see it!

]]> By: Michael Specht http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17701 Michael Specht Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:02:22 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17701 Hey Cam, Dave's show is still not on the front page ;-) Hey Cam, Dave’s show is still not on the front page ;-)

]]> By: Phillip Molly Malone http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17680 Phillip Molly Malone Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:41:36 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17680 Apple never said that you couldn't use Podcast, the Pod'o'sphere jumped to conclusions! It was always the use of myPodder (sounds like iPod). Aghhhhhh!!!!! Molly Apple never said that you couldn’t use Podcast, the Pod’o'sphere jumped to conclusions! It was always the use of myPodder (sounds like iPod).
Aghhhhhh!!!!!

Molly

]]> By: urbaer http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17663 urbaer Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:31:26 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17663 His blog is here: http://birmo.journalspace.com/ Has email addy, but can't seem to find any phone numbers... His blog is here: http://birmo.journalspace.com/
Has email addy, but can’t seem to find any phone numbers…

]]> By: Cameron Reilly http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17585 Cameron Reilly Thu, 30 Nov 2006 11:54:21 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17585 great tip Urbaer, thanks. Anyone know how I can get in touch with him? great tip Urbaer, thanks. Anyone know how I can get in touch with him?

]]> By: Cameron Reilly http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17572 Cameron Reilly Thu, 30 Nov 2006 09:17:55 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17572 whooops thanks Mim, I wondered where that promo file went! Must have got hidden under another file. And bugger it. Too late to bother about it now. whooops thanks Mim, I wondered where that promo file went! Must have got hidden under another file. And bugger it. Too late to bother about it now.

]]> By: urbaer http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17570 urbaer Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:40:21 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17570 Bits and peices from John Birmingham's Dopeland "a consignment of hemp seeds was included among the stores of the First Fleet... someone screwed up and the hemp planted in Australia... was Cannabis indica next to useless for making rope" but very good for smoking... No one thought to smoke it at the time though... so it was just considered a weed (okay it still is... but...) "The first shots in the Australian drug war came with the publication of an article in Smith's Weekly... in April 1938... a screaming banner headline..." which spoke of "'a new [Mexican] drug that maddens victims'" and that it "was growing wild throughout Queensland"... some weeks later it was reported that young Sydney siders were smoking imported pot from Queensland and "the hemp plant was hastily tacked onto the list of noxious plants; other states were shortly to follow suit" Dopeland is an interesting book (basically in the style of He Died with a Felafel in His Hand)... hey, maybe you could get Birmingham on the show... Bits and peices from John Birmingham’s Dopeland
“a consignment of hemp seeds was included among the stores of the First Fleet… someone screwed up and the hemp planted in Australia… was Cannabis indica next to useless for making rope” but very good for smoking…
No one thought to smoke it at the time though… so it was just considered a weed (okay it still is… but…)
“The first shots in the Australian drug war came with the publication of an article in Smith’s Weekly… in April 1938… a screaming banner headline…” which spoke of “‘a new [Mexican] drug that maddens victims’” and that it “was growing wild throughout Queensland”… some weeks later it was reported that young Sydney siders were smoking imported pot from Queensland and “the hemp plant was hastily tacked onto the list of noxious plants; other states were shortly to follow suit”

Dopeland is an interesting book (basically in the style of He Died with a Felafel in His Hand)… hey, maybe you could get Birmingham on the show…

]]> By: Miriam Parkinson http://noillusionspodcast.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/comment-page-1/#comment-17569 Miriam Parkinson Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:38:52 +0000 http://gdayworld.thepodcastnetwork.com/2006/11/30/gday-world-171-on-marijuana-living-without-advertising-and-plausible-deniability/#comment-17569 I typed this as I thought it so its kinda disjointed but fuck it, who cares :-) Marijuana causes people to seek sexual encounters full stop. I fail to see how this is a bad thing though. Cam, you seem to have a strange preoccupation with arse-fucking... When you think about it there aren't really any 'gay' activities which (at least some) straight couples might also indulge in so the real question is: do these conservatives have a problem with the activity, the fact that the people involved are the same sex, or both. Did you mean for there to be a promo over the top of you talking near the end then? I typed this as I thought it so its kinda disjointed but fuck it, who cares :-)

Marijuana causes people to seek sexual encounters full stop. I fail to see how this is a bad thing though.

Cam, you seem to have a strange preoccupation with arse-fucking…

When you think about it there aren’t really any ‘gay’ activities which (at least some) straight couples might also indulge in so the real question is: do these conservatives have a problem with the activity, the fact that the people involved are the same sex, or both.

Did you mean for there to be a promo over the top of you talking near the end then?

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